June 20, 2009
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Xanga Drama
EDIT: Just in case I didn’t make it clear enough. The list of usernames I placed here was meant to be a comprehensive list of users that I personally had seen involved in controversies. I did NOT mean it to call out, praise, insult, shame, honor, or critique anyone. I was not equating the users involved NOR was I exonerating them of wrong doing. If someone is offended by my inclusion of them on this list, please let me know and I will remove your username right away. If you think I shouldn’t include a list of usernames at all let me know in the comments and I’ll edit the post accordingly
Sigh… I guess I should chime in on the age old topic. Xanga Drama. Seems like everybody’s got a post about it. I might as well add my own two cents. Plus I think my perspective is different from most people’s.
I guess for me it’s just all really very sad.
I’ve seen a lot of controversies on Xanga. So many in just the last two years. I keep seeing this whole Drama thing come up again and again. And always the result is the same.
I see a constant string of Xangans either leave or greatly scale back their interactions with the Xanga community. Lots of bloggers who used to post regularly barely post any more. Many others don’t even comment. Others left with sad going away messages. Others mysteriously disappeared without ever saying goodbye.
And I know, it’s normal for there to be a turnover in any blogging community. People lose interest. People get discouraged. People have better things to do. It ebbs and flows, right?
But I think this is different. Theirs usually some controversy surrounding the departure. Some big huge mess that leads right up to it. It seems that far too often people don’t just leave naturally. They seem to be PUSHED.
No it’s not always intentional. Not always. Maybe not even often. Rather it just sort of happens. It’s just sort of has to do with the way Xanga is.
People get drawn in, they get addicted, they start to LOVE being here. Why? Because you can get so many followers. Because you can feel smart and feel like you’re a good writer. Because you can interact with many people with shared ideas. And because there is such a lively debate about things. There are so many different perspectives. Xanga isn’t one of those online enclaves where everyone just reinforces each other’s pre-existing beliefs. Furthermore it gets PERSONAL here. People share so many deep heart wrenching stories about themselves. People literally put a piece of themselves into their Xangas. Sometimes they hold nothing back.
There’s so much going on here. And there’s a lot of AMAZING people here. You can make friends here. GOOD friends. Friendships that can last beyond Xanga if you put the effort into maintaining them.
Yeah it’s addictive. All online communities are. But Xanga I think inspires a level of closeness between its denizens while at the same time making it so much easier for small blogs to attract large readerships that makes it all the more enticing. It’s like a love addiction. And we get so caught up we start to yearn for our next fix.
But there’s another side of Xanga. A darker side. The side that leads to the crash from the high. The agony of the withdrawal symptoms.
This is captured in that word you hear whispered about here and there and everywhere. That dreaded word. “Drama”.
At first when you join Xanga you don’t know what it means. You see a post about how there’s “too much drama” here and you kinda shrug it off. “What does that mean?” you think. Sure you see an argument break out here or there, but that’s *normal* right? It happens in all online communities.
But then it happens to YOU and it’s not at all what you thought it would be. You get embroiled in the conflict, lost in the DRAMA. And very quickly before you know it, that LOVE you had for Xanga turns to HATRED.
Or if not fullblown hatred at least a very bitter and cynical view, a sense of disgust. Why did it turn out this way?
You got hurt. BADLY hurt. And not just you too. Lots of people get hurt in these conflicts. ALL the time. Sometimes by people they don’t care about. Sometimes by people they thought were their friends. And when that happens… It’s hard to keep going on like nothing was wrong. It’s hard to stay a part of this community or to give it your all like you did a little while ago. It’s hard to swallow your pride and accept this hurt. It’s hard to find a way to heal.
I’ve seen it happen again and again with so many of my Xanga friends. I watched so many controversies evolve. So many “dramas”. I’ve seen ones arise involving the following Xangans:
purplepixiepoo, huginn, antisoccermom, fullmetalbunny, qccan, legendairy, vaultesl, yukinkoicy, badboydoomdaddy, modernbunny, celestialteapot, silentseekr, godlessliberal, inaneinsanity, raindrops23, vitamin_D, ISpeakLife, avenuetothereal, schristian, and of course thetheologianscafe and many more.
And I’m SURE you can add to this list. In fact DO SO. If you’ve been been involved in a Drama or a controversy here on Xanga or know someone who has put it in the comments.
Now some of these people don’t blog here anymore. Some blog a LOT less than they used to. Some considered leaving and had to be convinced to stay. Some focus their posts in protected blogs, Some changed their usernames. Some went crazy with the banning button. Some took lengthy breaks before coming back with a cooler head.
Some just… stopped caring.
Maybe you think some of these people deserved it. Maybe they did. Maybe you think some of these people were in fact the Problem. They instigated it. Maybe they were. Maybe you think some of them just need to develop THICKER skins. And maybe they should.
But that doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s HAPPENING. Far FAR too often…
It’s too easy to ignore it. To think of Xanga as just like any other quirky little community that has its share of disagreements. To think we’re like the community in the movie Fiddler on the Roof. Peaceful and secure in our traditions MOST of the time, but the occasional old animosities resulting in huge arguments lying under the surface.
But we’re NOT. It’s much worse than that. The DRAMA here gets out of control. The hurt feelings linger like a dour rain cloud coloring all that people say, all that we do. It’s like we’re constantly afraid. Tip toeing around each other, but pricklish and quick to anger anyway. We’re all trying not to be the cause of the next big Xanga Drama, while at the same time creating the very conditions most likely to trigger another Drama.
And then people start to think “This isn’t worth it. Why should I keep doing this to myself?” Can you blame them? Doing this. Blogging on Xanga stops making them happy. For those who stick with it, it almost becomes a kind of chore. Something you do out of habit or some misplaced sense of lingering responsibility to the Xanga community or a hope that things might change.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure plenty of people are perfectly comfortable with their Xanga experience. Some have fun and somehow manage to avoid all controversy. For a long time I was like this. But for others I’m sure this situation is intolerable. Even if you yourself haven’t been involved in dramas, you maybe like me feel the community has gotten out of hand. That something precious is being lost every single time another blogger just gives up and closes the door or decides that this isn’t worth it anymore.
In a way DRAMA isn’t even a good term. It’s a term like “love” and “hate” and “life” where everybody assumes they know its meaning but really doesn’t have a clue. It obscures more than it illuminates. It equates every little skirmish, every argument, every mishap. But they aren’t all the same. Some are misunderstandings. Sometimes it’s a case of blatant trolling. Sometimes it’s a legitimate difference of opinions. Sometimes it’s something darker, a kind of harassment or even a case of deliberate verbal abuse. Sometimes it takes on more of the character of a mob attack or a lynching. They aren’t all the same.
NOR are all the actors equivalent. But the word Drama equates them. If a Man beats his wife, we can call it “Family Drama” and yeah there’s some truth to that. But it’s also DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. It’s also ABUSE. It’s also CRUELTY. It’s also WRONG. It’s NOT the same as a normal couple of having a spat. Here someone is in the wrong and another person is the victim. Maybe we need to start using more specific terms to deal with these situations.
When we say “Drama” and cry out from our holier-than-thou position “STOP WITH THE DRAMA ALREADY” we not only equalize the participants no matter who is in the wrong, we also are trivilizing their problems. When you say that, this implication is that this is just a Childish conflict. It invokes images of teenagers embroiled in their petty high school conflicts disjointed and unrelated to the rest of the world. It makes you think of acting. It makes you think the people aren’t really hurt, are just pretending or are just lying. Phrases like “Drama Queen” come to mind. Of course WE are above that. We smarter, wiser, more mature people who know enough to call a end to the drama.
Ugh, how arrogant.
It’s far too easy to forget that for many people the internet is NOT a GAME. When someone they think is their friend says something terrible to them or abandons them or treats them with no compassion. It HURTS. When a stranger comes up and ridicules them or attacks them, it SUCKS. It hurts and it sucks just as bad as it does in so called “Real Life”. Remember just because something is done at a distance with someone you’ve never met doesn’t mean it isn’t real. Just because it’s online, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter. For so many people it matters so very much.
So… what can we do?
I don’t know. It’s not an easy problem to solve.
But I do know that we won’t make any progress unless we start talking about this. We need to open up a deeper more honest dialogue. We have to start sharing our stories and explaining ourselves and taking the time to try and empathize with one another. So let’s start DOING that. Start talking about it. Not judging, not condemning. Just talking. Sharing. Understanding. And then let’s brainstorm and work together to come up with real community based solutions that we can implement. You can start by replying here or by posting your own entry on the topic. Let’s start to share our stories and brainstorm our ideas on how to deal with these situations better.
Xanga won’t live or die based on whether we do this or not. But that’s not the point. The point is to make this experience as good an experience for all of us as it CAN be. And hopefully the kind of experience that doesn’t lead people to want to leave or give up on it.
I think Xanga is worth it. Do you?
Comments (48)
Xanga is worth it, I try and keep out of the drama as much as possible.
nice one. i think some people resort to personal attacks far too easily though.
“whoops, my point just got owned. well. YOU’RE SO STUPID YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYING. YOU GOT IT WRONG! ALL WRONG!”
and then there’s been worse.
Xanga is worth it, and thank you for finally writing an honest post about the drama. I’ve lost far too many Xanga Friends to it.
I think Xanga is very worth it.

Good post.
Hey, “fullmetalbunny” and “ModernBunny” are the same person! I’ll never live down that original username…
A little over a year ago, Xanga was like some big amusement park to my group. That was important… I had a *group*. I can’t recall how many of us there were, but “close knit” barely began to describe us.
I guess it started to fall apart when VaultESL left… and I think he left because someone posted something pretty cruel about him. Not just that, the commenters were laughing. It was entirely unprovoked and senseless. He left two or three days later. He was kind of a core figure in the group, so when he left things began to disintegrate.
qccan just shut down with no explanation. AvenueToTheReal… well, you probably remember what happened there. She did not deserve that mob lynching. How many other people have left? I can barely recall them. And that’s sad.
Since then, I have been guilty of overreactions, public tantrums, and taking things way too personally. I think there’s too much negativity and not enough good stuff to neutralize it. Not an excuse, just a reasoning. Even when there’s posting and commenting, it isn’t what it once was. Xanga *doesn’t* appear to be worth it, all too often.
Xanga is definitely worth it.
A lot of people love drama because it is silly and funny to watch a lot of the time. And I highly doubt when you have this money people in close proximity of one another that you can not have some drama here and there. Or people manufacturing drama to get the soap opera audience to tune in (I am so guilty…)
@ModernBunny - i included users twice if they were involved in different controversies under different usernames… Afterall I don’t KNOW for certain they are the same person, except that you just told me you were!
But yeah it’s stuff like those stories you tell. I don’t even really know what happened in most of the cases. I just got vague rumours, saw them at the peripherals. It really sucks. I keep wishing I could go back and chime in. Maybe one more voice of support, one more voice challenging the mob, or making people feel like they MATTER and that they aren’t being taken for granted and they’ll be missed would have changed things. But we can’t go back. All we can try to do is fix things and make it better for people going forward.
I’m part of that list.
And I enjoy a bit of drama.
Of course, I wouldn’t want Xanga destroyed over it… but I think that every time there is drama and our community is threatened because of it, we come back all the stronger. And that’s what makes our community so awesome.
I’m one of those people who have come and gone. Your post is very, very true.
@buckeyegirl31 - Maybe I’m one of them? Thanks for the rec, girl.
@SerenaDante - some dramas don’t bother me at all. I certainly wouldn’t want a passive community without any conflict. That’d be like taking the heart out of Xanga. But I think it does go too far. I think the intensity of some of these conflicts could be indicative of systemic issues within the Xanga community.
Anyway, I hope you are right about the community just getting stronger because of its hardships. I’m not so sure. When we lose, good, smart, interesting, and clever members of the community, it can be hard to see how we’ve grown as a result of that loss.
bravo on shedding light on something not enough readers understand well.
Xanga is worth it…
“When we say “Drama” and cry out from our holier-than-thou position “STOP WITH THE DRAMA ALREADY” we not only equalize the participants no matter who is in the wrong, we also are trivilizing their problems.”
i love it. i love it i love it i love it.
are you in psychology? because that was a very insightful tidbit i would never be able to put into words. bravo.
Yes Xanga is worth it, but I just don’t care right now.
I’m barely posting, hardly commenting. I see no point in getting my version of any topic out there. So I’m left trying to come up with something a little different without following in the footsteps of someone like DMV.
I’ve somehow been apart from nearly every conflict. I was a major part in the BBDD war, but behind the curtain.
We were people and we were heroes. haha We had stories about us fighting evil Myspace agents and people got to listen in on EXK meetings and many more. Now what are we? Xanga is no longer as fictional as it once was. We’ve touched ground and with that has come annoyences and confilicts that have taken over our many ideas of Xanga.
I’m just waiting to see what happens.
Xanga MOBS tried to lynch & hang me, but I had a lot of loyal friends that made it worth staying for. I stay for helping & friends,If I was on here to become somebody in the writing world I would be barking up the wrong sewage pipe. I enjoy lifting ppl up & making their life a lil brighter.
2cents Kris
I wonder if drama can really destroy xanga. I doubt it.
I have heard so many people recently post about how drama is at an all time high. I guess people don’t remember the Asian wars about 4 years back. They don’t remember the constant infighting and the resentment. I really think that xanga has less drama now than it did 4 years ago. Xanga has toned down so much.
Back in the day, people were just mean.
I think some people want to blame something for xanga’s decline. But ultimately, xanga needs to keep up with what other social networks are doing. For the longest time it was said that myspace became better because it had all the features. Then it was facebook. The response was that xanga couldn’t compete with them because they had more money. Now xanga can’t compete with wordpress.
At some level, xanga needs to work as a product and it needs to keep up with new features. If xanga were to grow again, it would increase in drama.
I’ve talked about this at great length. I can only reiterate what I said on my posts, that I find it dismissive to call the systematic harassment of users on here “drama” as if it’s just a silly blow up. I find it ironic that you would list my name in the same paragraph as SilentSeekr, since he is the idiot who completely and relentlessly harassed me, egged on by some of the charmers here, and since you are quite aware of that fact. I’ll tell you frankly I object to being included on a list with that freak and would have appreciated if you had had the courtesy to check with me before so freely using my name to illustrate your point, especially since you have rather insultingly lumped me in with that complete freak.
Xanga is a culture of trolls. Trolls thrive here. Users support them. In spite of this post, I was aggressively and repeatedly told that I am the ONLY person this happens to, and nobody else sees such “drama.” Some people support the trolls, and others live in a world of denial in which they pretend the trolls do not exist. The combined effect is a playground for trolls, and, as far as I’m concerned, that is all this site is. And since there is no will to improve it, that is all this site will ever be.
It’s nice that you want to talk about it. But if you don’t correctly identify the issue, you will never resolve it. I find this place beyond repair, and your blog proves the instinct I have expressed all along that others have felt the same way. What happens here is not comparable to what happens on other sites, and the trolls here, and the users who so zealously support them, ensure that Xanga users cannot post on the topics that are hot on every other site. Xanga is therefore grossly out of step with the rest of the blogging world, as the troll morons decide what people are allowed to talk about.
Xanga is a land of trolls, and the users like it that way. It’s that simple, and that sad. Thanks for trying, but please do not use me to illustrate a point you know I do not agree with. I would have expected better from you.
Just kick out those The Most Top Blogs & The Most Rec’d Blogs, then Xanga will be just fine.
Xanga is my escapism from the real world, and as a my online journal / dairy, nothing more nothing less.
Drama? What drama? -looks around-
I must be living under a virtual rock…
Many of those things are controversy or harassment, neither of which really defines drama. Ironically, this post is something that does qualify.
I totally agree with this post. Hardly any of what I’ve seen recently is harassment. Controversy falls under the ‘drama’ category also. That’s all I’m going to say for now.
@RestlessButterfly - Ya know I had thought about that. It would stop the most popular wars.
@TheTheologiansCafe - I agree and I said that what we do or don’t do about Drama will have little impact on Xanga’s survival in my post. Xanga does have to work as a product.
But I think the way the community deals with drama can have an impact on particular users experiences and I think that’s something worth looking into.
@melissa_orchid - I apologize for including you. For the record I DID NOT know that you disagreed with me. In fact I thought much of what I was saying was similar to what you had said. I don’t believe Xanga is “a community of trolls”. Many MANY people here are my good friends and I know they are NOT trolls nor troll defenders. They’re good people who deserve more respect than that. But yeah there are trolls here. And bad people. I didn’t mean to suggest there weren’t.
AND I TOTALLY AGREE with you in your points that there is a damaging element to the “drama” that takes place and that in many cases “drama” is a *terrible* word for what goes on. That was the greater point of what you said and what you are still saying. And that’s what I’m saying too, in different terms and in a different way.
Maybe I should have structured my post to make those points earlier and more forcefully. Maybe then it would have had a better impact? But what can I say? I wrote it the way I thought was best. I wrote it the way that I felt in MY judgment would be most likely to encourage the most productive dialogue. No. I didn’t definite the problem entirely. I don’t consider myself smart enough to KNOW the whole problem. My point was to get people talking about figuring out WHAT the problem is. You have your theory about that but I know many people who will disagree with that. Many don’t even believe a problem exists.
I know sometimes when I go off like this in a really long piece, I’m not entirely clear in expressing myself. I’m sorry about that.
Maybe it was just a really bad idea for me to include a list of usernames in the first place. It’s true I didn’t ask anyone’s permission. I just wanted to include one to give a sense of the SCALE of the problem. It’s not just two or three people involved. It’s a LOT. But yeah when you start mentioning people by name it can be bad. Generally I try very hard NOT to mention users by name. I don’t think it’s right to personalize things like that. That’s why I also didn’t talk specifically about what happened in any of these cases.
As a result undoubtedly it made it seem like all the users listed were equivalent. That was NOT my intent. As I explained later on in detail, one of the MAIN problems with the term DRAMA is that it does equalize users when their situations are NOT Equal. When sometimes someone is WRONG.
I will remove your username from the list. And I added a notice to the top so that if anyone else feels their usernames were wrongly included I will remove them as well. I’m thinking about removing the list entirely but I’ll have to give that some more thought.
Anyway, thanks for commenting. And again I apologize for offending you.
@beetunes - thanks
Nope no psychology at all. I studied Math, Computer Science, and Philosophy in equal measures in college. Now I work for a programming company and I’m mostly interested in politics. So your guess is as good as mine where this insight came from. I love to write and read a lot of Xanga. So I think maybe I’m just galvanizing a bunch of other peoples ideas and putting them into my own words.
Yeah… but getting out and finding something to do other than ‘stay in the community’ is good, too. People need vacations! Xanga is awesome… the drama isn’t. Sometimes it’s just all fun and games, though… to some. The ones in the ‘war’.
Breathe… you did nothing wrong.
<~smiling and waving.
I’ve only been with Xanga for a few weeks but Xanga is worth it. I was so happy to have made one friend. I trust her and so if I have a problem I will bounce it off her and maybe others in the future with personal messages so as to not hurt anyone with a public display. Then a judgement can be made and action taken if needed.
Thanks for the blog, Thank you very much.
i actually often punish people for just being normal xangans. i shouldn’t be on this website, i pretty much hold internet communities in contempt, and can’t stand the kinds of people who get involved in them. so yeah. i often get involved in drama. always my making.
@bella_esperanza - you were one of them along with purplepixiepoo, vault, qccan, and a few others who I’ve forgotten. There are also quite a few who hardly ever post any more because of all the drama.
@The44thHour - Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I miss those evil myspace stories.
I have somehow managed to miss most of the drama, thankfully. I find internet drama comes so easily though – it’s what happens when you give a bunch of people the space to say whatever they want with no consequences.
@randaness - I didn’t think this post qualified as drama, but now I see that you are definitely right. I’m gonna stay away from this kind of post for now on though.
@Lost_In_Reverie - from what i can tell, Real Life is pretty similar. People can say the craziest things with no consequences. Internet is just real life magnified and without the “Somebody might shoot me in the face” aspect. It’d debatable which is better.
I ENJOY my daily dose of Xanga; I sometimes find the need to “get away” momentarily. I don’t live here, but it is a nice place to visit. I have met many wonderful people here; I’ve also met some who were of the negative type. No problem; through the power of “delete” and “block”, it’s easy to sort the wheat from the chaff. As in life, there is a wide variety of people on Xanga, who don’t always share the same views, life styles, or values. We cannot be all things to all people. If everyone were alike; what a boring world it would be! Some enjoy politics, take pictures, write poetry,share stories of their children, share past experiences, etc. Whatever they write about is something that matters to them, after all it is their site. We are all free to make comments as a show of agreement, support, love, or just to say “Hi’. Bottom line is, if you don’t like a person, don’t go there to make trouble. That is nothing more than elementary school bullying. There is an old saying that applies here, “the more dirt you throw, the more ground you lose”.
Wow… came back to check out the comments and saw that a couple new things happened.
Like Made2Sing4Jesus said, you didn’t do anything wrong. I saw that you included BBDD’s name in the same list as my name, and accepted it even though he had been a source of intense anxiety for me. It was the greatest vindication ever when he got banned from Xanga.
…Seeing Dan say that the drama would be even worse if the site were more popular… talk about disheartening. Because I bet he’s right. If Xanga improves, then it will also become more aggressive and negative. What a thought.
congradulations on bringing me back to xanga
you can add my name to the list of people wronged on Xanga, and my newest blog explains all that if you’re interested!
Don’t know if you’ve subscribed to me, but yeah, you’re welcome to
*sees long post and question asking if Xanga is worth it*
If people think there’s drama on Xanga, they need to step out in the real world. Why can’t people just write and ignore what people say. It’s pretty simple.
I like xanga
I think the drama will always be there because we are all human beings. But theologianscafe is right that the core problems of Xanga have nothing to do with petty fighting. I like Xanga, I hope it survives but who knows. *shakes head* At least I admit that I start trouble, sometimes just for the sake of getting attention. Some people just have their heads buried in the sand about it.
@nephyo - I wouldn’t have thought about it before I read this post; it was one of those things that just struck me. Now I have a new way of scrutinizing my own blogs before posting as well. Schweet.
I enjoy the dramas on here, to a point. The point where it stops being entertaining and starts becoming quite sad is when the parties involved (or a party) begin to go after people’s personal lives; rather than smoke them on the issue(s) at hand. At first, people’s behaviours are amusing; but it almost always devolves into a series of character assassinations; libel; and pure childishness that is intended to mask the fact that the “author” has run out of relevant things to say (supposing they ever HAD anything relevant to say).
Some drama is needed to stoke the fires of Xanga. This is unfortunate, simply because this generation of Xangans are on par with the MTV crowd. They don’t want substance; they want superficiality. They want to stroke their own egos at the expense of writing quality; gripping entries.
Then again, this is a WEBLOG community. Everything’s personal.
And serious business.
I have to much homework so I don’t get to post much anymore.
@nephyo - I loved your article, it was a beautiful and thought provoking read.
But I’m not sure I understand your use of the term, DRAMAs. Do you mean unsubstantiated personal attacks coming from a group of people?