December 16, 2009

  • The Worst Argument: Give Obama the same chance you gave Bush

    I hear this argument a lot. It goes something like this. Look, President Obama might seem to be doing some things that aren’t right and it might seem like he’s betraying his principles and his campaign promises but you gotta give him TIME. He’s against terrible odds and there’s all these forces laid out against him. Just trust in Obama. After all, it’s only fair. You all gave President Bush time. People didn’t attack him like they are President Obama. You gave that bonehead eight years. The least you could do is give Obama more than a year to set things right.

    I understand where this argument comes from. There is an impression that President Obama has been treated unfairly compared to previous Presidents and in particular compared to President Bush, especially in the media. I think it’s true, at least amongst certain very popular news outlets (*cough* Fox News *cough*). And lots and lots of the criticisms against President Obama are just wild ramblings of very dangerous demagogues who have no conscience and will attack President Obama no matter WHAT he does. That’s unfortunate and it’s not right.

    However, that’s still an IDIOTIC argument.

    The idea that we should not hold President Obama accountable, that we should simply put our faith in him is ludicrous. It’s worse than ludicrous. Treating the most powerful man on the planet like he’s some object of faithful obedience is horrifying. And it’s insanely dangerous. In fact this argument is in a lot of ways a statement of the exact opposite of the problem.

    You see the problem isn’t that we are holding President Obama’s feet to the fire now. The real problem is that we DIDN’T hold President Bush’s feet to the fire THEN. Blind Faith in Bush was what allowed him to do many dangerous things to our country and put us on a path to near ruin. Giving him a “chance” before strongly critiquing him gave him a blank check to do whatever he pleased with. That’s why we went to war in Iraq on a lie. That’s why we saw massive tax cuts and deregulation that precipitated the biggest economic crash in recent history. That’s why America became known around the world as a nation of obstructionists, warmongers, and torturers. We let him do this stuff up until after he war in Iraq was proven to be a blatant lie and finally people started to turn on him. 

    Is that how long you want to wait with Obama? Three years? Four? Ridiculous.

    How do you know that at the end of those four years you won’t wake up to find your rights and livelihood were sold to the nearest corporation to buy President Obama’s re-election campaign.  That’s not even really an indictment on him personally. It’s just a matter of how politics today works. The best person in the world would have to bow to corporate interests if there is no popular movement behind him to balance that out.

    But let’s say you do give Obama a chance and he turns out to be AMAZING. He undoes all the bad he does and does a thousand times better in the coming years making the world a way better place and you think *phew* I’m so glad I gave him a chance before judging him on his first decisions! That’s be great right? But what will you say with regards to the President who follows Obama? OR the President after that? Will you say again “It’s only fair that we give him a chance” as this hypothetical leader does whatever he pleases? Great strategy right? It worked with Obama. Maybe it even works for the next Presidnet or the next two.

    But then the next one? Disaster. What if he turns out to be far far far worse that any prior President. For all we know he could end up being a monstrous dictator who actually does implement death camps and engages in unspeakable crimes. Will we feel good about it because we were “fair” and gave him a “chance” like we did poor  Obama? Will we be swayed by his pretty speeches and likable personality for a few years even as he is responsible for the deaths of millions?

    Of course not!

    Being hard on Obama is absolutely the right thing to do.  That’s how he will be encouraged and inspired to do the right thing. Or if not, he’ll be forced to do the right thing whether he wants to or not. We’d be SOOO much better off today had we been equally hard or even MORE hard on President Bush. But we weren’t. And we can’t turn back the clock and undo that. But we can do the right thing NOW. And that means whenever President Obama or any President or any Politician does things that are not in our interests we hold them accountable IMMEDIATELY for the consequences of their actions and DEMAND that they do better. That’s the only way you can get really ensure that you’ll get real “change”.

    And no that doesn’t mean all criticisms are equally justified or equally fair. When you hear unjust criticisms of the President you defend him. You challenge it. You tell the assholes who are lying to STFU. That’s a perfectly rational and right thing to do too. But don’t JUST defend the President. Challenge him too. Question him. Demand that he be BETTER. Just as we must all demand that we all constantly BE better if our species is to survive and Peace, Freedom, and Justice is to ever be obtained.

    So next time you here someone say something like “Geez, give hte President a break already. Give him at least the same chance you gave Bush!”  The appropriate reply is sarcasm. You say.  “Right. Because giving Bush a chance turned out so amazingly well for us.”

Comments (11)

  • Wait, what?  People most certainly did attack Bush when he was president.

  • Duuuude. Not enough people read your stuff. =/

  • Bush didn’t do squat in his first year.  And his administration wasn’t so corrupt it makes Grants look tame.

  • @Ghost0402 - “Bush didn’t do squat in his first year.”

    Bush took office January 20th, 2001. Between January 20th 2001 and January 19, 2002  the following were done under the Bush administration:
    Jan 29th: Created the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
    Feb 16th: US and Britain bomb Iraq to take out Iraq’s air defense network
    March: Bush administration announced that it would not implement the Kyoto Protocol
    March: Supports Taiwan in standoff against China over crash of a Chinese air force jet and the detention of U.S. personnel
    May 23rd: Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants
    May 26th: 2001 Bush Tax Cuts (many changes to the tax code, plus those checks we all got in the mail)
    June 7th: Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001
    August 9th: Restrictions on Stem Cell Research Established
    Sept. 18th: Authorization to the use of Military Force Passed
    Sept. 20th: Declaration of War on Terror
    Sept. 28th: USA-Jordan Free trade area Implementation Act
    Oct 7th: Beginning of War in Afghanistan
    Oct. 26th: USA PATRIOT Act
    Nov. 28th: Internet Tax Nondiscrimination Act
    Dec. 13th: Withdrawl from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty
    Jan 8th, 2002: No Child Left Behind Act

    In addition there were 44 executive orders implemented or amended by George W. Bush during that time period. To date there have only been 22 executive orders established or amended by President Obama.

    All that’s despite having had to reunite a country heavily divided over the Supreme Court decided election of 2000 and in spite of having a Congress split evenly 50/50 between democrats and and republicans (though later one seat turned over to the Republicans giving them a greater advantage, 51/49+VP).

    The statement that Bush didn’t do squat during his first year is conclusively false. During his first 365 days in office he started most of his biggest and most controversial programs.  Even the idea that Obama has done more is very hard to justify, though I think a case there might be able to be made. Both Presidents did a heck of a lot during their first year in office as do MOST Presidents. And if you answer that Bush only did a lot because of 9/11 (ignoring all the evidence I’ve quoted of the stuff he did before 9/11), Obama can surely counter just as easily with the Financial Crises that plagued his first year. There’s always some kind of crises.

    “his administration wasn’t so corrupt it makes Grants look tame.”

    I don’t know much about Grant era corruption. But if you’re implying that the Obama administration is the second most corrupt in American history that idea strikes me as ridiculously absurd. The burden of proof there is certainly on you and you’re going to need a HECK of a lot of evidence of that. There are a lot of very corrupt administrations and I’d  say George W. Bush’s is pretty high up there on that list. Not to mention Nixon.

  • I think it’s fair to say give him time to get things done before saying he’s broken a campaign promise. Especially since the republicans are filibustering everything congress tries to do, and congress has to give him a bill before he can sign it.

  • @agnophilo - Well I don’t think it’s unfair to say he’s broken campaign promises since he has. On some things he’s pretty explicitly said “I’m not going to do that” even though he said he was going to when a candidate. He’s also fulfilled plenty of other campaign promises. This is true of all politicians. politifact has a pretty good list of campaign promises Barack Obama has broken, fulfilled, compromised, stalled, or are in the works.

    While it’s true that Congress has to pass bills, obviously, the White House is far from powerless to influence Congress. It’s entirely reasonable to criticize Obama for not trying to push conservative Democratic congressmen to accept liberal legislation but instead pressuring liberal Democratic congressmen to accept more conservative legislation.

    There’s this idea that the White House is powerless, Democrats are powerless, nothing can EVER get done, it’s all the republicans fault. It’s false. Bush got done most of what he achieved with only 50-51 senators. He NEVER had 60. Yet Democrats try to appease Republicans and get them to agree on everything. They refuse to use reconciliation. They refuse to even use mean or forceful politics. Republicans have no such moral restraint.

    I’m not going to wait to criticize Obama on anything. I’ll criticize Republicans and conservative Democrats too, and even liberal Democrats when they’re in the wrong. But President Obama doesn’t get a free ride. Not for a month. Not for a year. If he wants to avoid the criticism, he can do better, faster.

  • @moritheil - Criticism of Bush was remarkably small for a long time. Especially public, media criticism. There was very little in early 2001 except for the small protests against the election results which were not policy based at all.

    After 9/11, Bush experienced gargantuanly high approval ratings like up to 90%. This nearly silenced most criticism in the media for a year or more. It wasn’t until after 2003, after the war in Iraq where criticism of Bush started to spread into a mainstream kind of thing. Countdown with Keith Olbermann premiered in 2003, but even in those days it was rather timid. It didn’t get really critical until around 2006, when Olbermann started his special commentaries. Air America radio started in 2004 and back then they were tiny. The Young Turks started in 2002 but was tiny until 2005 and wasn’t really huge until the last year or two. Rachel Maddow started in 2008. Fahrenheit 9/11 wasn’t released until June 2004.

    In contrast, FNC existed since 1996 and was always conservative. The O’Reilly Factor was defending Bush in 2000-2002 since they were founded in 1996. The Rush Limbaugh Show started in 1988, so he was certainly around to tell everybody how great everything Bush did was back in the early days of his presidency. If you think about it, criticism of Bush wasn’t high enough to prevent him from getting reelected in 2004. And is that surprising? It’s really the LATE part of Bush’s presidency when he was most heavily criticized.

    So tell me who were the major critical voices speaking out against President Bush’s policies back in 2001 and 2002? I can’t think of ANY. Certainly nothing proportional to the level of critique being aired against President Obama during his first year from the right AND the left.

    The only real question in my mind is whether this heavy criticism of Presidents is a new phenomenon entirely, Or something that is normal but was oddly absent during the early years of the Bush administration.

  • Obama was being criticized before he even took the oath of office. By the same people who kept telling us that we couldn’t criticize a president in time of war.

    I agree, presidents should be held accountable.

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